Thursday, February 28, 2013

Dr Odem take 1

Alright, so today did not disappoint!!!  I was hoping to get a lot of information and a lot of questions answered and I feel like both got accomplished.  I will say that for a consultation, I felt like he would have sat with us forever if we had any more questions!!  Never one time did I feel like we were less important then the people that were already going!!  He took his time and kept answering the questions and also making small talk!!  Really liked him to say the least!!!  I did give him the names of everyone that has told me that they used him throughout their journey (all of which were from Nashville) and he joked asking if we all get together for a coffee group and talk about how great he is.....the answer is no but might be a great idea!!  I am all for a fertility support group because I know that I have a lot of information to share and I am sure some of you know more than me...would be great for people just starting this hard journey of infertility...might be on my bucket list now to start one!! 

Ok so as for this journey I got a lot of great information.  I got pretty good detail of what meds will be required of both Kelly and myself and it really wasn't as extensive as I expected.  If Kelly blogs later she might disagree but I did belly shots, butt shots and pills for my babies that I conceived naturally and carried myself, so I wasn't at all intimidated by the meds.  The screenings were much less of a deal then they sound on paper.  The way the dr explained them, they are basically just getting the box checked that you have done them and really not that big of a deal.  Now for the timeline...if everything went perfect and we hustled we could be transferring in April already!!  Craziness!!  My goal is still to be transferring by summer although I am not sure what Kelly's timeline is so that will basically decide it.  Obviously April would be great but I realize that we have to get all the schedules to come together and summer might be more realistic!! 

Ok now for some statistics because I love that stuff!!!  Basically there aren't stats for successful GC cycles but Dr Odem said he can easily say that we have a greater then 50% chance with the transfer of getting pregnant.  That is better than I thought!!!  He also said that there is a 30-40% chance of having twins in general but his results last year were less than that.  And then a less than 1% chance of triplets.  Well those numbers are all better than I thought!!!  The one that shocked me the most is that only about 15-20% of couples have ANY embryos to freeze!!!!  This seriously shocks me when you think that you may start with 20 follicles.  I guess this is how amazing the human body is and makes you realize how amazing God has designed this process because it all has to be meant to be in order to get pregnant....many factors go into it....even more than you learned in science class (unless you went to school with Dr Odem).  I think that number actually relieved me!!  Yes it would be great to have frozen embryos in case this first cycle doesn't work because a frozen cycle is 1/5 the cost of the original cycle.  However, what happens if it does work?  I'm not going to get into a huge debate about this but I believe that at conception those are babies, so if you freeze them and get pregnant what happens to those embryos.....putting them down the drain is basically abortion however it would be a really hard decision to donate those  and basically give them up for adoption.  You would always know that there is a chance that you AND your husband have a biological child out there that you will never know.  Anyway, that was one of the issues that we struggled with thru this and it does make me feel more settled to know that we probably won't have to worry about it and if we do it isn't going to be like octomom where we will have several frozen....if you are lucky you might have enough for one more cycle. 

Dr Odem took some of my blood today to run a test to see if I have enough eggs to make this worth trying, which he is certain will come back fine.  He also suggested I get checked for the CF gene which I was fine with.  Those tests will be back in about a week and Kelly is suppose to call and schedule a time to see Dr Odem.  He said that as soon as he sees Kelly we can get the contracts drawn up and game on.  Then we have to get STD screenings, meet with a social worker, and Kelly will get an u/s to make sure uterus is good, and basically then we will be ready to start meds and get going. 

Thought I would leave the appointment today overwhelmed but that office made this seem so easy!!!  Pretty great if you ask me!!!  They make it so easy that basically you just have to complete their checklist and let's face it...there isn't too many things that I like better then a to do list to check things off of!!!!!

Sunday, February 24, 2013

Memory...tricky little devil or angel

Alright so I was in Chicago this weekend with my husband for a conference and on the way home I got a phone call that said that my 2 week old nephew was being helicoptered to St Louis because he was having spells of apnea.  So luckily my train was to arrive in St Louis about the same time the helicopter was going to get there.  I went straight to the hospital and sat with the baby until his parents could get there and I could take his brothers to an apartment close to the hospital.  Where am I going with this??  Well on the second day of being at the hospital I looked at the mom and said, I am sure you are sick of hospitals since you just were in there having them 2 weeks ago and now this...she looked at me and said, ya I don't know how you did it with Grady being in there for 5.5 weeks.  Funny thing about that, it didn't even cross my mind.  Although yes I know that Grady was in the NICU for that long and that I was there every single day, when I was empathizing with her at that moment, I just couldn't imagine how hard it must be for her, when in reality I had been there just 2.5 years ago dealing with apnea episodes of our own.  Funny how my memory didn't take me to that sad time but rather allowed me to really empathize with her because deep down I know exactly what she is going thru, without actually thinking about what we had went thru. 

So I was thinking about this on my drive home from the hospital and then I thought, wow, God is really amazing.  When I was pregnant with Grady and with Chesney I had to do belly shots of blood thinner and the big butt shots of progesterone.  It wasn't something that I enjoyed at all but it was just part of my pregnancies and I was fine with that.  Well then I started thinking how Kelly is going to have to do the same butt shot and a belly shot although just one and that shot is different then what I took....that gave me some perspective.  It's like God put that in my path so that I can truly appreciate what Kelly will be going thru.  I know what that shot feels like so it isn't just something that I will imagine, I know....and that gives me a greater understanding of what her experience will be and for that I am happy. 

I have seen my friend Erin do a surrogacy for 3 DIFFERENT families.  Every experience was totally different from the next, but sadly I must say that 2 out of the 3 families didn't treat her well afterwards.  They almost immediately forgot about the sacrifice that she had made for them and began to selfishly almost want to forget that she was part of the equation that equaled their family!!  How in the world could that happen???  I suspect that they didn't take the time to think about every detail of what she did for them.  It isn't just a pregnancy and delivery...it's a syncing cyles, IVF, shots, meds, dr appointments, morning sickness, and also everything else that goes along with pregnancy.  If you have never had the shots you might think how not fun that would be but I am blessed to have the other perspective.  Maybe God knew that I would need that piece so that I feel even more connected to this process and don't feel like I am missing out on any part of it.  I know that sounds weird but when I was being induced with Chesney, the induction started on Monday night and I didn't have her until wed afternoon.  During those contractions the drs had given me a pain pump and told me to push it when I wanted it....I hadn't pushed it and the nurse asked me why and I said because I don't think I will ever deliver a baby again and I want to feel it so that I might be able to remember what it was like.  I guess that probably sounds crazy to some of you and just so you know hers was the most painful delivery I have had so I ended with pain meds...but for that moment I wanted to feel that...I wanted to be present...I wanted to have that experience.  I am so grateful that my pregnancies were full of shots and meds so that I can really be present during this IVF and Gestational carrier process!!! 

I know this blog was a ramble but wanted you to know how I was feeling and I promise to always be candid and honest!!!

Tuesday, February 19, 2013

GEEKED OUT!!

Ok....so today I went to the mail and receive the packet from Dr Odem's office.  This seriously created lots of different emotions!!!  I started immediately filling out the paperwork and was faced with sadness writing about all of my history and also because I know that I will never be pregnant again per dr's orders.  Although the sadness was there and very real I am also so thankful and humbled that someone (namely Kelly) would be willing to do something like this for us!!!  Then that emotion was met with pure joy and excitement that we get to go meet the dr and "start" the process in just a week!!!  THis is where the geeked out comes in...totally excited that next week we get to finally start laying out this journey.  What will come first?  When will meds start?  How long will it take to get our cycles synced?  How long will all the screenings take?  when will the transfer be?  How soon will we know if this is going to work or not??  Lots of questions and no answers until next week....I think at least half of those questions will be answered next week!!! 

I do want to say that I know that not everyone gets it.  Not everyone understands why this is the journey we are on.  If you had asked Jason a year ago if this was even something that he would be willing to have a discussion about you would have been met with a HUGE and FAST, NO WAY!!!  However, God is so incredible and seriously works miracles in our lives every day.  This isn't something that we have jumped into and decided quickly to do.  If we look back, God has been preparing all of us for this journey for years now.  I wish that I could do it the normal way and decide when I want to get pregnant, get pregnant, and then deliver healthy, on time babies....but that isn't the card I was dealt and I have no doubt that there is a reason for that.  I joke all the time that for someone who is terrible at being pregnant and having babies, I seem to be the "go to" girl with questions relating to these topics....I suppose my obsession with the topic for the last 8 years might be why everyone sees me as the person with all the knowledge, but it's a little ironic because I am really bad at it all myself!!! 

Although I don't know what the reason God has us on this journey is, I am willing to go on the ride because I have no doubt that it is going to be amazing.  I want to keep my thoughts in this blog because I think it will be amazing to look back in 5 years whether there is another member or our family or not and see how this journey impacted the rest of all of our lives.  I guess my message today is, if you listen to God, He will be talking....just make sure that you are willing to hear Him whether it is something you want to hear or not.  Although I would love nothing more then to have a successful pregnancy with our final child like many other women, that isn't the journey God has laid out for me....not exactly my idea of a good time but I am just along for the ride.

Friday, February 8, 2013

Charis' reveal....

OK....I finally have permission and her blog is up and going so I hope when you are done reading you will check out her blog because it is AMAZING!!!  This is going to shock many of you but Charis is......my sister in law Kelly!!!!  So....let me pick up where my last blog left off.....a couple of years ago I was talking to my sister in law, Kelly and she had begun thinking about being a surrogate.  I asked my friend Erin for information for her and then didn't hear any more.  Apparently they had decided that having a baby for a family they didn't know might not work for them. 

Kelly is married to my older brother, Toby.  They were high school sweethearts and have 3 gorgeous boys!!!  She has been pregnant twice and is the only person that I know that has delivered twins that were both almost 8 pounds!!!  She seriously is ideal as far as candidates go for a gestational carrier!!!  She also lives in Salem, so there is a good chance that I can be involved with the doctor appointments if she is to get pregnant!!!  Kelly has an amazing story to share and her blog is linked on the right side of this page called.... 9 month babysitter 9monthbabysitter.blogspot.com .  Please check out her blog because it seriously is soooo good!!!  I just read it and am still crying!!! 

So, Jason and I are going to meet with the fertility specialist in St Louis, Dr Randall Odem, on February 28th and will get all the information and also find out when we can start the process....it is of course a process.  I am just so excited for all of our family to get to go thru this journey together and to get to see just how amazing of a person she is!!!  It is amazing to me that someone who has that ability to have easy pregnancies would be willing to be a "9 month babysitter" and do that for someone else!!!  I hope that I can use this time to really show her how much I appreciate what she is doing and I don't take one bit of it for granted!!!  We have both agreed that we are ready to get all the technicalities and legal "crap" out of the way and move on to the fun stuff....but that will be here before we know it!!!!  Please continue to follow OUR journey!!!  Also linked where her blog is linked is her husbands blog.....they are both great writers!!  I joked with Kelly that we should write a book when this is over but we decided we would go straight to a movie!!!

Saturday, February 2, 2013

Wow God......WOW

OK.....so this is a turn that many of you aren't expecting.  We were certain just a short time ago that adoption was the route we were going to go...although we had been pulled another direction, adoption seemed like the logical and easiest road to go.  After all with adoption as long as you are willing to wait you are guaranteed a baby in the end.  However, there are some things that God had been screaming that we didn't share because we weren't listening.....so here it goes.

When I went for my post delivery appointment with the high risk practice that had followed me with Chesney, I refused to see my dr (it's a long story but for the 3 days that I was in the hospital going thru all that he didn't stop in once to see me).  So I was scheduled with the dr that told me that Chesney didn't have a heartbeat.  I was good with this since she is the only female dr and I felt like she was the most compassionate out of all the drs we saw thru that delivery.  However, the day of the appointment when I was on my way I got a call from the office and they said that they were rescheduling me because I needed to see the dr that actually delivered Chesney.  Well this upset me because although I know that God had him there that day because he was the perfect dr for what we were going thru at that moment, he was NOT who I wanted to see for follow up....he was very cold, very matter of fact, and just not who I wanted to see for the follow up.  So, I turned around and went home to wait for my now afternoon appointment.  Ok, so when I got in with this dr that I didn't want to see for this appointment that I didn't want to have, he was AMAZING!!!  Seriously it was shocking how good he was.  Also turns out the DNA results that we were told would take about another month to get in were back and he had them.  He then told us what we figured all along which was that Chesney's DNA was completely normal but that they found a blood clot behind my placenta.  So I had either abrupted like I did with Grady, or I had developed a clot behind there, either one was what killed our little girl.  But then he went on to spend 30 minutes sitting in the chair across from me and telling me that he didn't advise us to get pregnant again, but that he also didn't advise that we go to adoption.  He said that since we know that we make healthy children if it was at all possible we should look into surrogacy.  OK this wasn't the first time since Chesney's delivery that we had heard that word.  Now I am not a stranger to it either which I will also get into in a bit...sorry this is a long one!!!

OK....so the day after I got home from delivery Chesney, I got a random facebook message from a girl that I went to high school with offering to be a surrogate for us.  We were not even thinking about any of it but began to after that message.  About a week later she emailed me again and said that she realized she couldn't do it....so was this God shutting that door or was it God preparing us for what was to come...depends on how you want to see it.  A few weeks later we had another dear friend of ours offer to do it for us....and although I knew that she was serious and would totally do it if we wanted, I felt like she was doing it because she is such a great friend and loves us so much and not because she really wanted to do it.  So after these events we decided to just say that God was pushing us towards adoption, because going that way there will be no money "wasted" and there will be a baby in the end. 

Now, a week before we met with the adoption agency I got a message from another person offering to be a gestational carrier for us.  Although I knew this offer was different and that she was really serious, the pure thought of the financial cost just seemed impossible and frankly unappealing.  I basically ignored the offer and went to meet the adoption agent.  Then the adoption agent said that we were unlikely candidates to be chosen quickly for adoption because of our bio children, that was a bummer but no real sign that we shouldn't be moving in that direction.  So about a week after that I got a message from this person, let's call her Charis since that name means "grace" or "loving kindness", anyway, during this message Charis said that she really wanted to do this and that she had already checked into her insurance and found out that they would cover the pregnancy and delivery just nothing before.  Well this completely changed the direction of the conversation as I was prepared to tell her that although we appreciated the offer, adoption was the direction we were going to go....but something changed during that conversation.  God totally BLEW THAT DOOR OPEN.  He totally calmed my fear which was the finances and basically told me to sit back and watch how awesome He was!!!  He could handle anything, and even though I thought that I had His plan figured out I had been ignoring what he was saying and just doing what seemed easy or sure. 

Now this leads my to my dear friend Erin.....Erin has be a gestational carrier/surrogate 3 times now.  I have been with her thru the journey and even was invited to the last 2 births, even though I didn't make either one because she decided not to plan them around what I had going on....thanks Erin!!!  I have witnessed this process from her side and have seen what it took for her to do that for someone else...which makes me even more understanding of what Charis has offered to do for us.  Although I have been thru this with her never once have I really thought about what it must be like to be the intended parents (that's what the name of the biological parents who are using a carrier), although I think God blessed me with our friendship at the moment that He did so that I could be blessed with watching it happen and not knowing that our journey would end here. 

That leads me to Charis.  She isn't ready to be identified yet but trust me when I have the go ahead I will tell you all about her because I am forever grateful for what she has offered to do for our family!!  We are moving forward with dr appointments and have already met with the attorneys to make sure we know what all is required and goes in to this.  We are all comfortable so far with what is required of us and are looking forward to blogging about it.  When she is ready she is also going to be keeping a blog which I hope to attach to mine so that you can see the journey from my side and hers, which I think will be very interesting!!! 

Ok so finally I want to say for people like my grandma, who I know are reading this and have no idea what this means.....WE will use a gestational carrier...so they will extract MY eggs and mix it with Jason's sperm....then at the right time they will implant that embryo into our gestational carrier.....hence the address of this blog Our bun...her oven!!!!  So it will be Jason and my biological child but she will be the one pregnant and giving birth.  I also want to say that this has the same success rate as regular IVF, so there is NO guarantee that we will have a baby at the end of this process but I am sure that there is so much to gain from the process that we have decided to just trust that this is where God is sending us and there is a reason for that.  There is only about a 50% chance that Charis will get pregnant and we will have a baby but that is ok...we are excited for the process.  I will blog about the entire thing....the prep, the shots, the dr appointments, and the transfer...and then if she gets prego I will continue to blog about what is all going on thru that process..

I just ask that you be praying for Charis and for the many blessings that I know God is going to be sending her way....it takes a special person for sure to be able to do this.  Also be praying for the entire process and that hopefully we have a baby at the end!!!  Thank you all for reading and I can't wait to bring you along on this exciting journey!!!